Ovid’s description says that love its natural pain that you have to “capture” or be “captured”. He also says that love can not be corrupted and that love could make any ugly person shine. For him love could change anything in a person and that if you love someone you have to serve to that person. Love could be erotic or spiritual. He gives us some rules in order to find our truth love. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/syndication/have-the-talk-2. An article that cut my attention it’s ‘how to have that talk’ sometimes we women think that we found the right person and we expect the guy to feel the same way and we ask them where the relationship is going. This article suggests that before you put yourself and him in this situation ask yourself where you want this to go. It might be that you are busy planning your career and although you think you love him you are not ready for such a commitment so why bother.
He talks about “all women can be won” In Men’s health web page http://www.menshealth.com/cda/advicedetail an article “my dream girl dumped me how do I get her back” it talks about all the possibilities that he has to get her back. It only takes time to listen to her needs and what was the problem. But the real questions are “weather the so called dream girl is really worth the trouble.
Thursday, November 6, 2008
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
"Love is the soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another", as stated in a very famous movie, could be an accurate definition of love. People have endlessly studied the concept of love for many years; some think is a chemical reaction that the brain produces in the presence of the love one that has other implications in some other section of the body, while others express their knowledge of love in a more spiritual sense. Reading an article of Man's magazine about the characteristics of love, it is perceived that men and women have unique opinions about the concept although it is believed that the idea should bound the together. The article expresses that women react more sensitive to relationship implying love than men. On the other hand, men tend to be more practical and physical towards the situation. Based on the article, Courtly love, we see that at the beginning that the definition of love is pure and sensitive. Subsequently, the notion of women enjoying pleasure more than men reflect an unrealistic conclusion in terms of the culture of the time.
Monday, October 20, 2008
bfilip courtly love
It seems as though in the areas of finding love and getting over love, the advice of Ovid has survived the test of time and is the same for women as men.
Ovid gives advice on where to find a woman to love. “To find a fitting mistress, use your eyes. The hunter learns where stags are to be snared, And in what glens the tusky boar is laired; So you who’re on a lasting love intent Must learn the spots that damsels most frequent.” Online at menshealth.com, in the article” Women, Here's the Best Place to Find a Man” women are also told to look where there will be many choices. “The winner? San Jose, California. The city at the southern end of San Francisco Bay has the greatest concentration of single, intelligent, physically fit men who love high-adrenaline activities.”
In the Cosmopolitan online article “How to Get Over Him: The No B.S. Guide to Surviving a Breakup” the advice seems to be similar to Ovid’s. Women are told not to call for 90 days and do other things to keep their mind off their ex. Ovid in his advice. Stated, your indifference is enough. This ignoring will help cure you of your scorned love. When asked “Can revenge ever be good therapy, like flirting with his best friend or spreading a nasty rumor about him?” the expert replied” The best revenge is getting on with your life and living it to the fullest.” Ovid’s advice was similar. “Who ends love hating comments fall on the wrong side. is still in love and can’t easily let go of sorrow.” His advice is that you will only be hurting yourself.
Tiresias was turned into a woman for separating copulating snakes. One could take this to mean that he was punished for doing the female a dis-service by interrupting her pleasure. However, as a female he became a prostitute which is not recognized as a pleasure receiving position. Perhaps, when he stated that women receive more pleasure from sexual acts, he was remembering how hard he had to work to please a man as a female prostitute. The fact that he spent years as a female, certainly gave him great insight into the society’s structure and the position of women.
I agree with some of Capellanus' text regarding love. For example, he states “27. A lover can never have enough of the embraces of his beloved.” I believe this is true due to the fact that humans are social animals and were turn to our lover to satisfy our emotional needs as well as our need for affection. However, He states “13. Love rarely lasts when it is revealed.” I do not agree. It is my belief that love is more likely to last when it is boasted of and publicly bolstered. This to me is one of the purposes of the marriage ceremony, to publicly acknowledge the love and coupling, therefore strengthening the bond. If it not revealed it is not of the reality of life.
Ovid gives advice on where to find a woman to love. “To find a fitting mistress, use your eyes. The hunter learns where stags are to be snared, And in what glens the tusky boar is laired; So you who’re on a lasting love intent Must learn the spots that damsels most frequent.” Online at menshealth.com, in the article” Women, Here's the Best Place to Find a Man” women are also told to look where there will be many choices. “The winner? San Jose, California. The city at the southern end of San Francisco Bay has the greatest concentration of single, intelligent, physically fit men who love high-adrenaline activities.”
In the Cosmopolitan online article “How to Get Over Him: The No B.S. Guide to Surviving a Breakup” the advice seems to be similar to Ovid’s. Women are told not to call for 90 days and do other things to keep their mind off their ex. Ovid in his advice. Stated, your indifference is enough. This ignoring will help cure you of your scorned love. When asked “Can revenge ever be good therapy, like flirting with his best friend or spreading a nasty rumor about him?” the expert replied” The best revenge is getting on with your life and living it to the fullest.” Ovid’s advice was similar. “Who ends love hating comments fall on the wrong side. is still in love and can’t easily let go of sorrow.” His advice is that you will only be hurting yourself.
Tiresias was turned into a woman for separating copulating snakes. One could take this to mean that he was punished for doing the female a dis-service by interrupting her pleasure. However, as a female he became a prostitute which is not recognized as a pleasure receiving position. Perhaps, when he stated that women receive more pleasure from sexual acts, he was remembering how hard he had to work to please a man as a female prostitute. The fact that he spent years as a female, certainly gave him great insight into the society’s structure and the position of women.
I agree with some of Capellanus' text regarding love. For example, he states “27. A lover can never have enough of the embraces of his beloved.” I believe this is true due to the fact that humans are social animals and were turn to our lover to satisfy our emotional needs as well as our need for affection. However, He states “13. Love rarely lasts when it is revealed.” I do not agree. It is my belief that love is more likely to last when it is boasted of and publicly bolstered. This to me is one of the purposes of the marriage ceremony, to publicly acknowledge the love and coupling, therefore strengthening the bond. If it not revealed it is not of the reality of life.
Saturday, October 18, 2008
According to the website www.Cosmospolitan.com, when loved ones are going through a rough time in their relationship, the best way to prevent yourself from experiencing pain and heartache is to ask legitimate questions based on the issues that may have caused the problem. Also take a break if you are too upset to talk rationally since this may increase the possibilities of more complex problems and confusion. Also, Ivy Black wrote an article on october 6th 2008 on the website www.socyberty.com stating that 99% of relationships will run into problems, he also explained in the article that when couples are going through a tough time in a relationship, avoidance is the worst way to deal with a problem in a relationship, instead they should address the issue soon and communication is the best relationship advice where love is concerned. comparing both views from the previous websites to On how to deal with love and cure yourself from heartache, i think that Ovid's advice goes complementary with the websites in that one should avoid lonely places and also instead of instigating an emotional problem, never hate the other party and if a love one goes away, keep your options open and dont shut everyone else off from you since such an act will never stop the moaning.
Tiresias who in Ovid's metamorphoses, lived life as both male and female. The transformation came about when Tiresias once saw two serpents mating and struck them apart killing the female and because of the existence of magic and gods he was turned into woman. As a result because he lived life as both sexes he was called upon to settle a dispute between hera and zeus concering who enjoys sex more, man or woman. Hera prepare him to be more insightful due to the fact that he first blinded by hera and as a result zeus gave him inner sight which is the ability to see the future. i think that Hera determination that women enjoy sex more than men came about because as a woman he lived life as a prostitute and i think then he experienced all the different sexual pleasures a woman experiences with her body (for egs orgasms, pleasure of the breast etc)
for the most part, i agree with Calleneus characteristics of love and his rules on love. this is so because i think most of his rules are logical where true love is concerned for egs i think that one has to be jealous to love and that love is either growing or diminishing. however some of his rules i may not agree with such as rule no. 13. i dont think love rarely lasts when revealed because then it would not have been love in the first place.
Tiresias who in Ovid's metamorphoses, lived life as both male and female. The transformation came about when Tiresias once saw two serpents mating and struck them apart killing the female and because of the existence of magic and gods he was turned into woman. As a result because he lived life as both sexes he was called upon to settle a dispute between hera and zeus concering who enjoys sex more, man or woman. Hera prepare him to be more insightful due to the fact that he first blinded by hera and as a result zeus gave him inner sight which is the ability to see the future. i think that Hera determination that women enjoy sex more than men came about because as a woman he lived life as a prostitute and i think then he experienced all the different sexual pleasures a woman experiences with her body (for egs orgasms, pleasure of the breast etc)
for the most part, i agree with Calleneus characteristics of love and his rules on love. this is so because i think most of his rules are logical where true love is concerned for egs i think that one has to be jealous to love and that love is either growing or diminishing. however some of his rules i may not agree with such as rule no. 13. i dont think love rarely lasts when revealed because then it would not have been love in the first place.
Friday, October 17, 2008
courtly love
1. The description that is given is a very affectionate and loving. He explains that in order to look for real love someone must really look for it. As he explains the origin of “love” which comes from the word “hook” which signifies “being captured” and is something that one must look for with their eyes rather than wait for it to come. He explains how loves bring out the beauty of oneself and that even a really ugly person and rude can all of a sudden be pretty because he shines of love. He goes on to explain that ones you find love, cherish it and be generous, always do what Is pleasing to your loved one. He says that it’s important to always look good, dress nicely so the clothes will fit on you exactly. If you fight and make her upset, prove your case, if you need to cry, cry tears can always help. Be gentle and if you want to kiss your lovers lips, don’t be too harsh. Be original, and always surprise her. If love ends, try not to think about her too much. Just think of the bad things that your loved one did. There is no reason to be alone for you will only think of her more. According to Connie Regan, a relationship advisor “Men would rather discuss almost anything rather than things that are so personal to them. Men will pretend that breaking up with their woman was no big deal but, in reality, they may be on the verge of breaking down at any time. If you are feeling depressed and unhappy about a recent breakup look for someone that you can be open and honest with about how you are feeling” http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Men-Handle-Breakups-Differently-Than-Women---Men-and-The-Way-They-Handle-It-When-They-Breakup&id=576989. Men today turn to pretend like a break-up is nothing for them. They can’t show their real feelings because their ego sometimes is too high. They always try to pretend like they do not really care “As a guy I think us men are scared to show many of our emotions. I recently broke up with my girlfriend and it affected me a lot. However, since I didn't feel comfortable talking to our friends about my inner pain, it just kind of built up and burned a whole inside of me” http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070420000513AADuGor.
2. Tiresias who experienced love with both sexes. She has been transformed into a women for seven years and therefore, was able to experience the joy of sex with from both sexes. In an argument between Zeus and Hera regarding who enjoys sex more women or men, Hera said the Men while Zeus said the Women. According to Tiresias who has experienced from both genders she said “that she receives the greater pleasure: "Often parts a man enjoys one only." 2008.Google.14 Oct 2008. Since Hera did not like what Tiresias said and punished him with blindness. Zeus, who had no control over that, gave him at least the gift of foresight. The incidence that occurred with Hera, made Tiresias be more careful with what he says. Sometimes he realizes that he should not say the whole truth as it gets him in trouble. Similary as in Oedipus the Kind, where Tiresias again was blamed as Oedipus insults him by calling him a liar and refusing to believe what Tiresias had to say. The fact that Tiresias inclined that women enjoy sex more than man implies men usually do it for the sake of doing it, because they have the need too, while women are more attached and get emotionally into it and out of love and deep care.
3. Capellanus’ imposes certain rules for being in love that I do not personally agree to all of them. For example he says that no one can really have two loves, which in this case I agree because a person cannot be in love with two people at the same time. Loving two people is not a true love. He also goes on to explain that you can’t love someone after a certain age. Which in this case I completely disagree with it, as people can always find love at different age, as my great-grandfather got remarried at age 98. So I do believe that people can find love at any period of their life. I do agree when he says that a “new love expels an old one” unfortunately today, after two people break up, it’s hard to truly forget about someone until you find a new love. I would have to strongly disagree with what he says that “blindness impedes love, for a blind man cannot see that on which his mind can reflect immoderately.” This is a very harsh statement to say as everyone, with any disability can find love. Looks, is not everything in life, and people can fall in love just by personality, as in my opinion the personality builds the looks. I would have to say that some of the things are true and I would agree with them, but there are a few that I cannot agree with. Everyone should have the opportunity to find true love, whenever and wherever they desire.
2. Tiresias who experienced love with both sexes. She has been transformed into a women for seven years and therefore, was able to experience the joy of sex with from both sexes. In an argument between Zeus and Hera regarding who enjoys sex more women or men, Hera said the Men while Zeus said the Women. According to Tiresias who has experienced from both genders she said “that she receives the greater pleasure: "Often parts a man enjoys one only." 2008.Google.14 Oct 2008. Since Hera did not like what Tiresias said and punished him with blindness. Zeus, who had no control over that, gave him at least the gift of foresight. The incidence that occurred with Hera, made Tiresias be more careful with what he says. Sometimes he realizes that he should not say the whole truth as it gets him in trouble. Similary as in Oedipus the Kind, where Tiresias again was blamed as Oedipus insults him by calling him a liar and refusing to believe what Tiresias had to say. The fact that Tiresias inclined that women enjoy sex more than man implies men usually do it for the sake of doing it, because they have the need too, while women are more attached and get emotionally into it and out of love and deep care.
3. Capellanus’ imposes certain rules for being in love that I do not personally agree to all of them. For example he says that no one can really have two loves, which in this case I agree because a person cannot be in love with two people at the same time. Loving two people is not a true love. He also goes on to explain that you can’t love someone after a certain age. Which in this case I completely disagree with it, as people can always find love at different age, as my great-grandfather got remarried at age 98. So I do believe that people can find love at any period of their life. I do agree when he says that a “new love expels an old one” unfortunately today, after two people break up, it’s hard to truly forget about someone until you find a new love. I would have to strongly disagree with what he says that “blindness impedes love, for a blind man cannot see that on which his mind can reflect immoderately.” This is a very harsh statement to say as everyone, with any disability can find love. Looks, is not everything in life, and people can fall in love just by personality, as in my opinion the personality builds the looks. I would have to say that some of the things are true and I would agree with them, but there are a few that I cannot agree with. Everyone should have the opportunity to find true love, whenever and wherever they desire.
Thursday, October 16, 2008
Love
1. Many women magazines, especially, spend a lot of space on giving women advice to let them know whether the men that they are with are the one. If the men that they are dating are they’re one true love. In Cosmopolitan I took a quiz that was suppose to let you know whether you are with your boyfriend because you are in love with him or because he is just there. The questions asked what you felt when you saw him, what type of music you listened to, whether you looked forward to seeing him, whether you felt like pleasing him, and a couple of more intimate questions. The type questions that were asked, I guess one can say that the image of love does fit with Ovid’s image of love. Ovid’s image of love is whether you look forward to that “embrace” from that significant other. In the questions that were asked in the quiz, it asked whether you looked forward to having sex with your significant other, or whether you saw it as a chore. Another similarity can be said to be in the Cosmo quiz which asked whether you were there to please him, and where Ovid said that love is not about greed. Now there are more details to how to mend a broken heart. One article says to start a journal in which you write out everything that you are feeling, and to keep yourself as active as you can. Also to “Find someone in your life whom you can depend on or share feelings with like your mom, your best friend, even your dog.” (http://www.wikihow.com/Cure-a-Heartache) Another article says about the same to activities that will keep you busy, “Start a workout routine that gets your blood and heart pumping”, start a new life style, trying to keep your mind away from the pain. (http://www.ehow.com/how_2386909_cure-heartache.html) Cosmo gives the same idea, but also adds to go out with your friends, and that there is nothing wrong with having a rebound guy. (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrities/exclusive/How-to-Get-Over-Him-The-No-BS-Guide?click=main_sr). Ovid says to avoid lonely places, which is the same as a rebound or a day out with your friends. He also says to let those feelings of loneliness to make you bitter.
2. Tiresias was turned into a woman, when he struck two snakes that were “copulating”. He was once again turned into a man, when he once again saw two snakes “copulating” nd struck them again. When Hera and Zeus were arguing about who enjoys sex more men and women, and having being both, they asked Tiresias. Tiresias said that women enjoy sex more. Hera as a result blinded Tiresias, Zeus was not able to stop her but gave him the power of prophecy. I believe that women do enjoy sex more. From the accounts that I have heard, it seems that men are easily pleased, while it takes a lot more for a women to be sexually pleased. By logic, something that is harder to obtain, is more rewarding, than something that can be easily obtained. I have heard that a woman is able to enjoy sex on different levels, while for men it is only one basic level. Tiresias was able to have this insight because he has seen life as both men and women. As a result of Hera’s ultimate punishment of blindness he was given the power of prophecy. This power was seen in Oedipus the King, when Tiresias early on in the play reveals the truth and how Oedipus will ultimate end up. Tiresias reveals that the land is ill because Oedipus is their King, when he is both husband and son. Oedipus blindness and exile is also revealed through Tiresias prophecy.
3. When reading the characteristics and laws for love, some of them I agree with, and then there are others in which I am not convinced. The romantic meaning that I see in his characteristics of love, I agree with. For example, when a person is in love, they have that period where all that they can do is think of their beloved. No matter what one is doing your mind ends up in the same place, your beloved. Another example is that when one sees their beloved they instantly smile, and sigh. Then there are other characteristics of love, which I also agree with, but they have more of a biblical definition. In which it says “Love is patient, love is kind, love is not jealous, love does not brag and is not arrogant, love does not act becomingly, Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness but rejoices with the truth, Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.” (Corinthians 13:4-13). When I read some of the characteristics, this is what popped into my mind. Some of the ideas Ovid alludes to, and I agree with them. Then there are other characteristics, which Ovid mentions that seem to more of protocols, such as how old do you have to be to fall in love, how much time to wait after your beloved has died. These types of protocols do not fit into the idea of love. When love seems to be this power, this freedom, something magical, setting protocols does not seem to fit into the idea of love. Love is unpredictable, and one cannot set rules on something that is unpredictable.
2. Tiresias was turned into a woman, when he struck two snakes that were “copulating”. He was once again turned into a man, when he once again saw two snakes “copulating” nd struck them again. When Hera and Zeus were arguing about who enjoys sex more men and women, and having being both, they asked Tiresias. Tiresias said that women enjoy sex more. Hera as a result blinded Tiresias, Zeus was not able to stop her but gave him the power of prophecy. I believe that women do enjoy sex more. From the accounts that I have heard, it seems that men are easily pleased, while it takes a lot more for a women to be sexually pleased. By logic, something that is harder to obtain, is more rewarding, than something that can be easily obtained. I have heard that a woman is able to enjoy sex on different levels, while for men it is only one basic level. Tiresias was able to have this insight because he has seen life as both men and women. As a result of Hera’s ultimate punishment of blindness he was given the power of prophecy. This power was seen in Oedipus the King, when Tiresias early on in the play reveals the truth and how Oedipus will ultimate end up. Tiresias reveals that the land is ill because Oedipus is their King, when he is both husband and son. Oedipus blindness and exile is also revealed through Tiresias prophecy.
3. When reading the characteristics and laws for love, some of them I agree with, and then there are others in which I am not convinced. The romantic meaning that I see in his characteristics of love, I agree with. For example, when a person is in love, they have that period where all that they can do is think of their beloved. No matter what one is doing your mind ends up in the same place, your beloved. Another example is that when one sees their beloved they instantly smile, and sigh. Then there are other characteristics of love, which I also agree with, but they have more of a biblical definition. In which it says “Love is patient, love is kind, love is not jealous, love does not brag and is not arrogant, love does not act becomingly, Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness but rejoices with the truth, Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.” (Corinthians 13:4-13). When I read some of the characteristics, this is what popped into my mind. Some of the ideas Ovid alludes to, and I agree with them. Then there are other characteristics, which Ovid mentions that seem to more of protocols, such as how old do you have to be to fall in love, how much time to wait after your beloved has died. These types of protocols do not fit into the idea of love. When love seems to be this power, this freedom, something magical, setting protocols does not seem to fit into the idea of love. Love is unpredictable, and one cannot set rules on something that is unpredictable.
Courtly Love Readings
1. The Ovid’s rule is the reference book to attract him/her and how to keep the relationship. The way to attract him/her in present and Ovid’s description has similar points. Both are care about others. Ovid’s said, ” Night hides each fault, each blemish forgot“. People tried to creep into his/her favor and tried to respect other’s opinion. Also, the trust is the important to keep the relationship. “Sweet boy, I’ve not betrayed you and make her dance if she can’t move her arms.” However, there are difference between modern rule and Ovid’s rule. In present, he/she better to show the financial manner and ability. “Tip well: Grab the check, mentally divide the bill by 10, double that number, and throw down the tip. Do it quickly but casually. Believe me, she'll be watching.” (Men’s Health Magazine, “20 Simple Tips for the Perfect Date”). “Buy Him a Drink” (Cosmo Online, “How to Ask a Guy Out”). The modern rile and Ovid’s rule has similar way to cure from heartache. Ovid’s said “A new love expels an old one.” When I console his/her in heartache, I would encourage in meeting new love to forget old love. Also, I would encourage him/her “All men/women can be won.”
2. Tiresias lost his sight. Tiresias saw snakes were copulating. He shut off snakes by sticks and hurt female snake. Suddenly he became woman. Seven years later, he saw snakes were copulating at the same place. He did the same thing he did past and he became man. While he was woman, he already got married. Therefore he had a experience having a sex with both man and woman. One day Zeus and Hera had argued about which sex feel more enjoyment while having a sex. However, they did not have answer for it because they do not know how opposite sex feel while having a sex. Therefore, they decided to ask Tiresias, because he know both woman and man’ feeling. Tiresias honestly answered what he thought if the maximum enjoyment of the sex is 10, and then woman feels 9 and man feel 1. When Hera heard Tiresias opinion, she upset and she make him blind. Zeus felt sorry for Tiresias receiving an insult. Zeus gave Tiresias ablility to make a predictions and long life which is 7 times than human life.
Since Tiresias became a blind, he would be more careful to listen and speak a word. There are some situations that tell truth is not good solution. People should consider what going to say depends on the situation and circumstances. In the story of the “Oedipus the King”, Tiresias did not want to tell the truth to the Oedipus. He did not want to put himself difficult situation by telling the truth. He just left the truth and wait until Oedipus knew. Sometime do not tell the truth or white lie will be better than telling the truth.
I do not agree Tiresias decision about enjoyment of the sex. I believe the sex is the one of the expression of love. If a couple loves each other, I think they feel equally. Sex has not only physical enjoyment but also enjoyment of the spirits.
3. I think the Tiresias’ rule of the love is well listed. These are the basic rule of the lovers even at the present. Also I thought he was honest. He said “Marriage is no excuse for not loving” and “Love always departs from the dwelling place of avarice.” I think these subjects are not easy to mention. I agree with most of his rules. However, I cannot agree with the rule that “If a lover suspects another, jealousy and the effects of love increase.” I believe that love is based on the trust each other. When a lover begins to suspects another, it is endless and it could lead misunderstanding and trouble. Also I do not agree with the rule that “A new love expels an old one.” I know most of time a new love expels an old one. However, there is a word that “man is not able to forget first love.” So do I. I know that love diminish but I want to believe that true love will be last forever.
2. Tiresias lost his sight. Tiresias saw snakes were copulating. He shut off snakes by sticks and hurt female snake. Suddenly he became woman. Seven years later, he saw snakes were copulating at the same place. He did the same thing he did past and he became man. While he was woman, he already got married. Therefore he had a experience having a sex with both man and woman. One day Zeus and Hera had argued about which sex feel more enjoyment while having a sex. However, they did not have answer for it because they do not know how opposite sex feel while having a sex. Therefore, they decided to ask Tiresias, because he know both woman and man’ feeling. Tiresias honestly answered what he thought if the maximum enjoyment of the sex is 10, and then woman feels 9 and man feel 1. When Hera heard Tiresias opinion, she upset and she make him blind. Zeus felt sorry for Tiresias receiving an insult. Zeus gave Tiresias ablility to make a predictions and long life which is 7 times than human life.
Since Tiresias became a blind, he would be more careful to listen and speak a word. There are some situations that tell truth is not good solution. People should consider what going to say depends on the situation and circumstances. In the story of the “Oedipus the King”, Tiresias did not want to tell the truth to the Oedipus. He did not want to put himself difficult situation by telling the truth. He just left the truth and wait until Oedipus knew. Sometime do not tell the truth or white lie will be better than telling the truth.
I do not agree Tiresias decision about enjoyment of the sex. I believe the sex is the one of the expression of love. If a couple loves each other, I think they feel equally. Sex has not only physical enjoyment but also enjoyment of the spirits.
3. I think the Tiresias’ rule of the love is well listed. These are the basic rule of the lovers even at the present. Also I thought he was honest. He said “Marriage is no excuse for not loving” and “Love always departs from the dwelling place of avarice.” I think these subjects are not easy to mention. I agree with most of his rules. However, I cannot agree with the rule that “If a lover suspects another, jealousy and the effects of love increase.” I believe that love is based on the trust each other. When a lover begins to suspects another, it is endless and it could lead misunderstanding and trouble. Also I do not agree with the rule that “A new love expels an old one.” I know most of time a new love expels an old one. However, there is a word that “man is not able to forget first love.” So do I. I know that love diminish but I want to believe that true love will be last forever.
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